Archive | February 7, 2012

How to behave when you meet people from other Traditions

Because I spent the weekend doing this.

How to behave when you meet people from other Traditions?


When you meet people of other traditions there are some things you should know about them.  We will go through some of them now.


When meeting a Gardnerian, never, ever, tell them you have been initiated as a Gardnerian unless you have been.   Gardnerians know their spiritual genealogy better than most Confederate wives.  They know their initiation chain back to Gardner.  It is best not to pretend.

Gardnerians initiate first and ask questions later. Other traditions may make you study or apprentice to their tradition first. The Gardnerians have degrees that you pass through as you learn the Tradition. This group scripts many of their rituals and repeats them at the appropriate holidays.

Gardnerians are the Wiccan equivalent to Episcopal Christians.  They are sometimes referred to as Episcopagans. They take their Craft very seriously; the only ones more serious about their Craft are Dianics. They believe what they do in ritual should remain secret. Do not tease them about it, it may be fun but it’s not nice.

They practice skyclad more than some of the other traditions.  If you don’t want to parade around in the all together, don’t go.  This can also be a very chilly Tradition, how it started in inclement England, Miss Kat will never know.


Virtually the same as the Gardnerians, just don’t say that to them. Please don’t say that the story of Alexander on the kitchen floor bit is a bit loony.


Eclectics incorporate a little of everybody’s stuff into their Tradition.  Do not remind them this is a dangerous practice. Their Tradition works for them and that’s what counts, isn’t it?


No Tradition is hassled more than Dianics, sometimes with good reason, sometimes not.  Do not add to this.

No Dianic appreciates hearing that she can’t do magick without a man present. Obviously, she can and has.  Do not tell her that “True Polarity” can only be felt if both sexes participate.  She believes she is complete in herself.  If she is a lesbian, she may not be shy and go on the offensive. Somehow the people who say these things never understand their “helpfulness” is going to get them hurt.  Remember, pagans carry knives.

Miss Kat has observed a lack of sense of humor about this crowd. To the Dianics: Lighten-up! You aren’t getting out of this alive. Before someone throws stones at Miss Kat please note that Miss Kat is a trained Dianic with a great fondness for the Green Man for some reason.

To the rest of the Pagan Community, leave them alone; they are just as serious about their Craft as you are about yours.




Sacred Spaces in Los Angeles Part 2

11. Vasquez Rocks – A place familiar to any one who has ever watched a Western or most crime dramas or even Scifi since on Star Trek and others it more often than not another planet. Deep red rocks that are just at angles.
12. Rancho Santa Ana Botanical Garden – isn’t in Santa Ana anymore where it was founded but moved to this spot in Claremont. Some of it is cultivated and some has been left wild and a lovely place to spend a spring day.
13. Echo Park – home of lotuses and a statue of Isis near downtown LA that brings a spot of peace with its lake. Being cleaned out right now but, hopefully, will reopen soon.
14. Sepulveda Wildlife Refuge – Originally and still part of the flood drainage system of the San Fernando Valley. This spot is full of birds and in spring and fall a migration spot and if you are vewy, vewy quiet – wabbits. A lake alongside the 405 that is now a restored wet land and a wonderful place to take a walk and be at peace.
15. Malibu Creek State Park – where the Ren Faire started. Home of the gathering oak. A place of peace and often ritual among many pagan groups and at least one pagan priests ashes. A very magical spot. Mercedes Lackey must have thought so too since she wrote the first of her modern elf books set here.
16. Mt Wilson – A place that looks over all of LA and was a camping spot for the Native tribes of the area in summer. When the mists move across it can be very other worldly.
17. Placerita and Bouquet Canyons – Spots of beauty when they aren’t regularly on fire where more native plant varieties grow than almost any other non planned space.
18. Gold Creek Ranch – A private camping spot up in Tujunga that was also a Native camping spot and where we made the mistake of inviting them in one night before bed and were kept awake by the sounds of moccasins walking on gravel all night long past our tents.
19. Parts of Griffith Park – Fern Dell to name one, for others practice your intuition, it’s good for you.
20. The Arroyo Seco – hiding under the bridge in Pasadena runs the creek that comes down from Hahamonga and creates lovely little magical wild areas of power.